Other people's religious books; Holy Bible and Holy Quran. (1584 hits)
Firstly, what exactly are the Bible and Quran?
The Bible is a book of the experiences ONLY of the Jewish people spanning over 7000 years from Abraham to Jesus. No Black Americans are written about in the White Christian Bible.
The Quran is a book of the experiences ONLY of the Arabian people spanning 23 years; from the time Prophet Mohammed was anointed until he died was 23 years.
Why then do Black American Christian preachers and Muslim ministers preach the experiences of other people to Black Americans to believe in as though Black Americans would comfortably fit into other people's experiences is a telltale sign of how ignorant and stupid Black American religious leaders are?
What is unbelievable and baffling to me personally is that when you show these indisputable facts to Black American Christian preachers and common every day Black Americans are not moved! We are spiritually walking dead people. What good are your brains doing for you since you have your brains on shutdown while fear and ignorance has a strong grip on you all?
You sound a bit ignorant by asking me where you can purchase my book of life.
The first thing that popped in my mind was imagining a Hebrew asking Moses where a Hebrew can purchase your book of Exodus Moses.
Here is a play-by-play how religious books come into existence. First there is a man running around telling his people that he is their prophet. To prove that he is a prophet he will be saying things that are strange, but true and has never been said. Then some intelligent person among the people will take notice of the odd and unconventional things about this man; the prophet. Then this handful of the prophet's people will take it upon themselves to record the things that prophet is saying as well things that are happening.
Let's take a play-by-play of Prophet Moses as a comparison and contrast to Prophet Harry. Moses came back the Egypt telling the children of Israel that he was their prophet. Moses said things about God and what is going to happen for the children of Israel that was unbelievable to them. Then came a time that things began to happen like the plagues.
Perhaps before they let Egypt or shortly thereafter a handful of small minded Hebrews took it upon themselves to record everything relevant that was going on that later turned into the Jewish Holy Torah/Christian European gentile Bible.
The same play-by-play scenario is applicable to Prophet Muhammad as well. Mohammed received his anointing and revelation in a cave in Arabia. He told his family and close friends about his divine experience. They believed him perhaps not immediately, but they eventually believe him. Mohammed's teachings of monotheism were strange and odd to the pagan Arabians. Things begin to happen against all odds, but favorable to Mohammed under the control of God.
Then a handful of Mohammed's closest companions took it upon themselves to record everything that was happening that was relevant and these scraps of writings became the Quran; the Arabian people's religious book.
When these books were completed they were made available free of charge to the common people!
Please read carefully to understand fully what I am saying in before you ask stupid questions!
The Bible is a book containing the word of God. However, the present day bible is NOT the word of God. The Bible was plagiarized and tampered with. It may contain some verses of the original scripture but due to its tampering, it also contains hundreds of scientific errors, mathematical errors, unfulfilled prophecies, wrong historical facts and contradictory verses (2 or more verses contradicting with each other).
The Holy Quran encases (clarifies) the previous scriptures OF THE Bible. The Quran was sent down in order to proclaim for the Jews and the Christians many things they have concealed in the scriptures. It settles for them most of the matters, which they are still disputing. It points out for them what they disagree. Ironically, they were the first ones who rejected it, despite clear proofs given to them. This is due to jealousy on their part. God guides those who believe to the truth, which is disputed by all others, in accordance with His will. This verse lays down clearly:
"He has revealed to thee the Book, with truth, verifying that which was before it, and He revealed the Torah and the Gospel aforetime, a guidance for the people, and He sent the Discrimination (Furqan). Those who disbelieved in the messages of Allah, for them is a severe chastisement." (Holy Quran Chapter 3 verse 3)
God sent the Quran with the truth, confirming previous scriptures, and superseding them. For each community, God has decreed laws and different rites. If God willed, He could have made us a single community. But God's plan was to test us in the revelations He has given each of our communities. And on the last day, God will inform us of the matters in which we dispute.
Sunday, June 8th 2014 at 6:58PM
Siebra Muhammad
Siebra,
You say that the Bible is the Word of God and I don't deny that. The Koran is the word of the same God and I don't deny that either. Likewise, Black America's holy book will also be the word of that same God to.
At this point you should see something developing that tells you that the Word of God for the Arabian people is not the same word of God for Black Americans since prophets are racially different and it is the prophets that bring the Word of God to his own people.
It is the dumbest and even rational thing to say that the Quran clarifies the Bible when the people that wrote the Bible are racially different from the people that wrote the Quran. There are no Arabian prophets in the Bible that would give the Quran the right to clarify the Bible. You are a stupid woman Siebra. Your brain is useless!
You are not logically and analytically thinking.
When we write our holy book there will be no clarifying the people of the Bible and the people of Quran since we are neither Jewish people nor Arabian people; we are Black Americans. The lane that Black Americans are driving in is our lane. The lane that the Jewish people are driving in is their lane. And of course, the lane that the Arabian people are driving in is the lane as well.
What all does this tell you? It tells you that you must stay in your own damn lane!
No Harry, you are the one not logically and analytically thinking. You see, in ancient times, including Jesus, Abraham, and Prophet Muhammad's time, the Arabian peninsula was considered part of what we now call Africa, not "the Near East" or "the Middle East". The various peoples who settled the African continent and parts of the Arabian peninsula during that time were black people. There are Black Arabian prophets in the Bible that would give the Quran the right to clarify the Bible. Black people did, in fact, have a part in both the Bible and the Quran stories. They are mentioned, not because they were black, but because they were there during that time.
IT was Black people who wrote the Original Bible, but the slavemaster rewrote it to make it a fraud and mind controlling instrument. There are still some good scriptures still in it. But "massa" had to put the good stuff in the bible so it would make the bad stuff look real to people. Quote From Minister Farrakhan:
"Why would Allah (God) send this (Qur’an) after this (Bible)? It is because the enemy that had us in their hands and corrupted us had the Bible also in their hands and corrupted it. This Book, (Qur’an) comes as a Criterion to tell us the good of this Book (Bible) and to verify the truth of the Bible."
That statement above lets us know that Allah already knew the Bible was tampered with and this is why he says the Quran verifies the "TRUTHS OF THE BIBLE."
You said that there are Arabian prophets in the Bible. Please show the book, chapter and verse that explicitly is about Arabian prophets.
The Arabians claimed to have had one prophet; Mustafa Mohammed was the prophet’s name. Mustafa Mohammed was anointed long after the Bible was written.
Secondly, you keep using the phrase Black people this and Black people that. You use the phrase Black Arabians. Then you use the phrase Black people wrote the Bible.
Are these Black people Black Americans? If there aren't Black Americans who are descendents of plantation slaves then why would you mention them since all Black people are not the same people. Likewise, all blackbirds are not the same birds.
So, I asking you to clarify to overstatement you have made. Firstly, point where Arabian prophets are mentioned in the Bible for a prophetic reason dealing with the Jewish people. Secondly, when you use the phrase Black people are you lumping Black Americans a specific kind of Black people in with all dark skinned or Black people?
The Black Arabian people that I am speaking about are Black Americans. Technically, Saudi Arabia is West Africa. The Aden Rift and Red Sea Rift separated Africa from Arabia, although the two were once part of the same landmass. The rifting was caused by Africa being displaced 200 kilometers south and west of its original position.
The Black Arab nations are descended from Ishmael, the son of Abraham, who lived about four thousand years ago in the Middle East. The Jews are descended from Isaac, another son of Abraham. Thus these two peoples, Arab and Jew, so often at loggerheads, have Abraham as their common ancestor. Disunity, however, has not prevented the Arabs from making their impact on the world. Islam has changed the course of history and its rise was prophesied in the Bible.
Ishmael's mother was an Egyptian called Hagar and an angel spoke to her about the character of her son before he was born. It was the first prophecy about the Arabs. He said:
"Behold, thou art with child, and shall bear a son, and shall call his name Ishmael...and he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man and every man's hand against him" (Genesis 16:11-12).
Wildness and inter-tribal conflict have characterized the Arabs throughout their history. Many of them, like the Bedouins, have lived nomadic lives. Attempts to unite the Arab world have always been frustrated by their own fiercely independent behavior and their propensity to engage in long and bloody feuds.
Prophet Muhammad was one such member of the Black Arabian nation whose rise to prominence was foreseen in Revelation Chapter 9 as "a star fallen from heaven unto the earth".
"To him was given (by God) the keys of the bottomless pit (Arabia) out of which "arose a smoke" (the militant followers of Prophet Muhammad) who "darkened" the Roman "sun" by afflicting her rulers (Revelation 9:2).
"It was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth neither any green thing neither any tree" (almost word for word the instructions of Abubeker, Prophet Muhammad's successor, to his troops), "but only those who have not the seal of God in their foreheads" (ie. did not believe in the unity of God, as Muslims believe). (Revelation 9:4).
"They had hair as the hair of women" (the long, flowing hair of the Saracens)..."and their breastplates were of iron" (the famous Arab warrior cuirasses). (Revelation 8:9).
Are you saying that the slave people that President Abraham Lincoln freed by the Emancipation Proclamation was Black Arabian people having something to do with Saudi Arabia and the Middle East?
Please clarify your self because if that is what you are saying then you are scientifically and analytically wrong! The Saudi Arabian people whether Black or White history don't show them as plantation slaves here in America.
Black Arabians and Black Americans all racially different!
I find it rather interesting that a man name Jacob fought with an angel and won and God change his name from Jacob to Israel like wise a man named Abraham had 2 sons Ishmael and Isaac One became the father of the Arab’s the other the father of the Jews interesting
Whether the Jewish people's self proclaim story is interesting or not it is the Jewish people's story. No people's experience they had with the God should ever be criticized by an outside especially when the outsider (Mr. Soso) doesn’t know the history of his origin!
The way we think and reason are extremely fu*king stupid!
Harry That’s their story or rather their- HIS-STORY does not make it true and I don’t have to believe it because it makes no sense, it’s an idiotic concept and you are suffering an Idiotic syndrome
Mr. Soso, The Jewish people’s story is not for you. Their written stories in the Torah/Bible are for their children. Their children are to learn how God helped their ancestors. When we Black American write our story how God anointed us Prophet Harry and how God delivered us into our own country is for our Black American children and especially for other races to believe. The Jewish people don’t give a **** if you don’t believe them! You are stupid!
Do you mind giving me your thoughts that if I was a devout Christian as you claim that you are and someone said to me that prophets are racially different from that moment for my spiritual world would be rocked? I couldn't be the same person anymore. Why are you the same person?
Knowing that prophets are racially different automatically steers you to who your prophet must racially be!
I don't want to talk about stupid stuff. Talking about apology is utterly stupid! I want to talk about fruitful things; Black Americans having a country of our own do you think is our permanent solution?
HARRY I have found that you HARRY don't give a shi* about nothing but what your slave owners want you to produce and that is the LIE that the Black American is not a creation of God. Also you don't give a damn about your Brothers and Sisters who challenge this narrow-minded BS that you pulled out of your as* of being a prophet. One thing that I have seen that you have earned is the title of: "First Black American Ginuwine Lying FALSE PROPHET."
I see that you still have not apologized yet for calling me some vile, out of my name on Face Book and you act that nothing is going on. I have drew the line right here with you HARRY, I want your apologize right now from you now and your promise to respect all the Brothers and Sisters here on BLACK IN AMERICA.
Talking about respect your Brothers and Sisters is the most important thing one can do on BLACK IN AMERICA.
