Scholarship study,,,,,, How did Jesus and the Hebrews become WHITE? (6339 hits)
Color struck: America's White Jesus is a global export and false product What color was Jesus? Most American Christians—Black and White—would dismiss this question as both irrelevant and unanswerable as the Gospels fail to give us a physical description. The irony is that most of these same Americans in their heart of hearts are pretty confident any way that they know what color Jesus was. They attend churches with images of a tall, long haired, full bearded White man depicted in stained glass windows or painted on walls, and they return home to the same depictions framed in their living room or illustrating their family Bibles.
How did the Hebrews turn White? Of course they didn't really; just in the imaginations, and then the histories of White people. Who for probably practical reasons, decided that Hebrews, and also the Blacks who originally lived in the Country's that they took over, should all become White for posterity's sake.
Seeing as how it only takes three generations to turn a Black person into a White person (and visa versa). No doubt there came a time when as Europe's formerly bi-racial populations, became more homogeneously White, White people decided that they could no longer acknowledge that all that they knew and had, was derived from the minds and labors of Black people - even down to their religious beliefs. The logic no doubt being that Whites could not progress to their full potential, if they were always looking up to Blacks, as the personification of knowledge and wisdom. So a change had to be made, and at some point, by somebody, that change began.
Of course, we have no way of knowing when this process of Whitinizing Blacks began, or who did it, or where it was first done. But we do have some materials by which we can track the process, somewhat.
But first, let us go back to see what Hebrews REALLY looked like. The earliest authentic pictures of real Hebrews that we have, date back to before Christ. They are Assyrian relief's showing Hebrews, and others that they conquered, in pictorial scenes detailing the battles fought, with associated text. These relief's decorated Assyrian palaces, and were no doubt used to gloat over their conquest of the Hebrews and others. Here we are using pictures of: Assyrian King Shalmaneser IIIs "Black Obelisk" (858 B.C.). Assyrian king Tiglath-pilesar III’s relief's of his conquest of a city near the Sea of Galilee (730 B.C.). Assyrian King Sennacherib’s relief's of the conquest of the Judean City of Lachish (701 B.C.). The four pictures below, are from those Assyrian relief's. (These relief's are stored in the British Museum, London England).
It is worth mentioning, that the Hebrews were just as literate, and just as artistic as the other Black civilizations around them. The reason that we have to depend on outside sources for pictures of them, is because Whites destroyed all that the Hebrews ever created. Even down to the very religious writings that they claim to worship by. That fact is that ALL Hebrew writings, even the SEPTUAGINT {the original Bible}, which was only roughly Hebrew (it was made for the Greek King of Egypt, Ptolemy II (Philadelphus) in 282-246 B.C.), has been destroyed. Everything except for the "Dead Sea Scrolls" which were found in 1947, in Qumran, a village situated about twenty miles east of Jerusalem. The Scrolls are under the joint custody of the Catholic Church and the Israelis. The translated contents of those Scrolls has never been made public, and probably never will be - no doubt the differences in teachings and facts would be irreconcilable. (A few inconsequential snippets have been made public - the entire Scrolls is a huge work, which contains the entire old Testament plus many other works).
Why wasn't the material in these pages destroyed? Because after it's fall, Assyria came under the control of the Persian Empire, which was itself a Black Empire. It then came under the control of Greeks, who were at that time, seeking to merge with the Black Persians, not in denying that they were Black people. Then Assyria again came under Persian control, and then finally under the control of the original Black Arabs. So at the time when Whites were destroying vestiges of Black history, they had no access to the Assyrian artifacts.
But at those times when Whites did have control of an area, they seem to have been very through in destroying all vestiges of the former Black inhabitants; there is nothing left to suggest that Carthage was a Black city, Mesopotamia and the Indus Valley civilizations are some of the oldest known, yet very little is left - next to nothing in the Indus valley. Ancient Anatolia (Turkey), was home to many great and famous civilizations, but very little has been found there. The Egyptian artifacts, of which there are many, were mostly recovered in modern times, when Whites rather than simply destroy, instead modify artifacts; sometimes just by breaking the noses off, in order to make them look like White people, and then proudly display them as proof of the White mans greatness.
The Khazars, a Turkish tribe who had established a Kingdom in the Caucasus region, and converted to Judaism in the 8th century A.D. Must have seen the doings of the Romans and Greeks, and seen it as an opportunity for them to take over the Hebrew identity, and thus control of the orthodox branch of the Hebrew religion - which indeed they did. They logically thinking that if Jesus can be White, why not then, the entire Hebrew nation - which was by then a diaspora anyway. The Islamist side-stepped the entire issue by forbidding imagery of any kind.
The first century Jewish writer Josephus (37-100 AD) penned the earliest non-biblical testimony of Jesus. He reportedly had access to official Roman records on which he based his information and in his work Halosis or the “Capture (of Jerusalem),” written around 72 A.D., Josephus discussed “the human form of Jesus and his wonderful works.” Unfortunately his texts have passed through Christian hands which altered them, removing offensive material. Fortunately, however, Biblical scholar Robert Eisler in a classic 1931 study of Josephus’ Testimony was able to reconstruct the unaltered testimony based on a newly-discovered Old Russian translation that preserved the original Greek text. According to Eisler’s reconstruction, the oldest non-Biblical description of Jesus read as follows:
“At that time also there appeared a certain man of magic power … if it be meet to call him a man, [whose name is Jesus], whom [certain] Greeks call a son of [a] God, but his disciples [call] the true prophet … he was a man of simple appearance, mature age, black-skinned (melagchrous), short growth, three cubits tall, hunchbacked, prognathous (lit. ‘with a long face’ [macroprosopos]), a long nose, eyebrows meeting above the nose … with scanty [curly] hair, but having a line in the middle of the head after the fashion of the Nazaraeans, with an undeveloped beard.” This short, black-skinned, mature, hunchbacked Jesus with a unibrow, short curly hair and undeveloped beard bears no resemblance to the Jesus Christ taken for granted today by most of the Christian world: the tall, long haired, long bearded, white-skinned and blue eyed Son of God. Yet, this earliest textual record matches well the earliest iconographic evidence.
The earliest visual depiction of Jesus is a painting found in 1921 on a wall of the baptismal chamber of the house-church at Dura Europos, Syria and dated around 235 A.D. The Jesus that is “Healing the Paralytic Man” (Mark 2:1-12) is short and dark-skinned with a small curly afro - see below.
This description has now been supported by the new science of forensic anthropology. In 2002 British forensic scientists and Israeli archaeologists reconstructed what they believe is the most accurate image of Jesus based off of data obtained from the multi-disciplinary approach. In December 2002 Popular Science Magazine published a cover story on the findings which confirm that Jesus would have been short, around 5”1’, hair “short with tight curls,” a weather-beaten face “which would have made him appear older,” dark eyes and complexion: “he probably looked a great deal more like a dark-skinned Semite than Westerners are used to seeing,” they concluded. The textual, visual, and scientific evidence agrees, then: Jesus likely was a short, dark-skinned Semite with short curly hair and dark eyes.
Wednesday, March 27th 2013 at 9:11PM
DAVID JOHNSON
David,
Why don’t you know as much about your self and people as you think you know about the Jewish people?
Suppose I ask you Mr. David Johnson the same question, what color are you would you be able to tell me as well as you run off the history of the Jewish I don’t think you could and that is because you are ignorant and stupid.
Any time you know more about the Jewish people than you know about you r self you are indeed an idiot. When a man would know more about Jewish children than he knows about his own children that man is a dummy am I right.
Lastly, the question you are asking is wrong because people are not identified by color because people are not objects. People are identified by race or ethnicity.
to be brief-----since the concept of colorClassification and colorWorship seems to be of European GENESIS-----i will say that the hebrew became 'blackORwhite' in EUROPE......
Judaism and the concept of MONOTHEISM, belief of the Creator of Adaam(as) is NOT worship of colors as humanIdentity, in my opinion......
europe SEEMS to me to be the home of ignorantRacist Division of the Family of Adaam(as)
for that matter, persian, chinese, turks etc. are NOT of ignorantRacist origin
I HAPPEN TO NOTICE BOTH HARRY AND ROBERT ARE STUCK ON COLOR WORSHIP .....look at their response,,clearly they missed the first and last chapter..but its ok because IF YOU ALLOW COMMENTS you expose the LIES ,,AND DECEPTION ,,,RANTS AND SELIFH GAIN avoiding real scholastic ,and scholarship !
Black and White—would dismiss this question as both irrelevant and unanswerable as the Gospels fail to give us a physical description. The irony is that most of these same Americans in their heart of hearts are pretty confident any way that they know what color Jesus was.
They attend churches with images of a tall, long haired, full bearded White man depicted in stained glass windows or painted on walls, and they return home to the same depictions framed in their living room or illustrating their family Bibles.
Black and White—would dismiss this question as both irrelevant and unanswerable as the Gospels fail to give us a physical description. The irony is that most of these same Americans in their heart of hearts are pretty confident any way that they know what color Jesus was. They attend churches with images of a tall, long haired, full bearded White man depicted in stained glass windows or painted on walls, and they return home to the same depictions framed in their living room or illustrating their family Bibles.
POWELL YOU SAY ,,,,i, robertPowell, have NEVER or will EVER identify any human being as a color
skin color CANNOT think
the Human Identification by color is European ORIGIN -- paganChristian.......
the "jews" that Europe 'burnt in Fires' were European----blond, redHaired---blue/green ----NOT semitic..............
In my opinion
----your colorWorship of the latinJesus has NOTHING to do with BIA, Monotheism, or the Land of African/Asia--middleEast.....
OK THATS YOU ,,,,BUT THE TOPIC IS ABOUT How did Jesus and the Hebrews become WHITE? WHEN I posted this blog ,I was not thinking how you feel about color I was thinking about all the blacks that BELIEVE in a white JESUS IF COLOR IS NOT IMPORTANT THEN WHY DOD THEY MAKE HIM ''JESUS '' WHITE !
robert .your stuck ,,and have been that way for a while sorry but i cant help what you cant understand ,,your lack of understand and reasoning has got you perplexed and useless but stick around as the blog king i will teach you how to to know better so you can do better and grow up out out of your delusional thought patterns
Back to the topic some point to phrases in the Bible that say, “His eyes are like blazing fire, his feet like burnished bronze, and his voice like the sound of many waters.” which would indicate a very Black man with a deep voice. And there are depictions of Jesus the Christ like this in some Black churches, and some ancient statues and paintings show him this way. However, doesn’t the second commandment explicitly forbid the making of “graven images?” So how come there are so many depictions of Jesus the Christ, as Black or White?
Muslims have no depiction of Jesus Christ or any of the prophets, neither do Jews, or many Christian sects. However, Catholics and many Protestant sects do have icons, usually of a White Jesus. And note that it is Catholics and the Protestant sects with the White Jesus icon that sent out missionaries in the wake of the European conquerors and colonizers.
Note that the literal meaning of “Catholic” is “universal.” The Catholic Church purports to be universal, a faith for everyone. However, how can any faith that holds that certain of its members look like God, and others do not, be all-encompassing? Once the prophets, or God himself, as many Christians hold Jesus Christ to be, is pictured as any color, then all who are not of that color would have to have a lesser status.
However, there is an even deeper question. Did Jesus Christ really exist? Because this is a predominantly Christian country, the mass media acts as if Jesus Christ is an undisputed, real historical figure. As a result many, if not most, are not aware that there is a historical debate as to whether or not such a person really existed. Who or what one believes, or does not believe, is a purely personal matter. But it is a fact that there is great controversy over Christ’s authenticity.
Here is a little test. Tell me, who am I referring to? He died in his 33rd year. He said the man married to his mother was not his father. He said he was fathered by a God. He was called, “King of Kings.” And the name “Issus” was connected to him. Who was that? Jesus? Yes, but all these things are also true of Alexander the Great. It has been claimed that Christ is a re-configuring of the supreme Western conquerer, Alexander, as a supremely religious figure.
The Persians invaded and conquered Egypt in 666 BCE. The Greeks under Alexander came in 333 BCE. Alexander’s general Ptolemy, after Alexander’s death, inherited the throne of Egypt and was declared Pharaoh. The Ptolemaic line was the last Pharaonic dynasty; its last member was Cleopatra. After Cleopatra, the Romans seized Egypt. The Romans, at first, persecuted the Christians until, that is, the Emperor Constantine converted to the Christian faith.
However, Walter Williams in The Historical Origins of Christianity disputes that last claim. He offers evidence that Constantine did not convert to Christianity, but, instead, created it! Williams says that the Romans were not putting Christians to death, that they were persecuting the last stubborn remnants of the original, ancient Egyptian religion.
The whitewashing of the image of Jesus began during the European renaissance Constantine, says Williams, ceased his attacks on them once they agreed to convert Egyptian religion into what is now known as Christianity. That is why the earliest statues of Christ and his mother are Black. They are based on the Egyptian holy figures Isis and her son, Osiris.
Notre Dame and many European cathedrals are, in fact, built on sites that were originally temples to Isis. Notice, how in Southern Europe the “Mother of God,” is often given as much, if not more, attention and veneration than Christ. Williams, and others, say this is because Mary is really a refiguring of the goddess Isis, and Jesus is a recasting of her son, Osiris.
The Romans badly needed a central religious figure to hold together their ever expanding Empire. Observe that the Pope is called the “Pontiff.” One of the titles of the Roman Emperor was “Pontifex Maximus.” Also, look at the hat, called the “mitre,” that the Pope and all the bishops of the Catholic Church wear. It is based on the double crown of the Egyptian pharaoh. The pharaoh was the intermediary between the people and the gods, the Roman Emperor and later the pope assumed that pivotal role. After the fall of Rome, the various kings that rose up across Europe claimed to rule by, “Divine Right.”
So we see that starting with the simple question, “What color was Christ?” we can explore a host of historical issues and perspectives. But, bottom line, what is the truth? Only you can decide. However, unless you read and think for yourself, others will make up your mind for you and thereby decide your fate. Would that not be a waste?
Friday, March 29th 2013 at 2:35PM
DAVID JOHNSON
"Muslims have no depiction of Jesus Christ or any of the prophets, neither do Jews," Friday, March 29th 2013 at 2:35PM ----David Johnson
ABSOLUTELY------Muslims and jews are MONOTHEISTIC believers of the Creator of Adaam(as) and WE follow the LAWS of Musa(as)--tenCommands
your euroCentric thinking is the same as the paganChristian, paganPharoah Beliefs AGAINST MONOTHEISM.......your paganRacist ignoranceEuroCentrISM.............
Robert Powell I have far exceeded your rudimary knowledge as I drifted along the edge of history". you are once again suffering from your own nonsensical jibberish I have presented you with new and accurate information to even permeate the barriers of your ignorance You either know...or you don't. You have already intimated that you do not. Please do not confuse the 'education' you have been the recipient of with where I am eventually going in this discourse. That would be the same fatal mistake you continue to make incessantly so; the mistake of thinking you already know everything there is to know pertaining to the historical records you have been reduced to the level of a mere citizen on this planet (just barely so) when you once ruled it. From this point on I will address only the subject matter at hand as in every class room there are those who desire to know, whilst still there are others who will simply "drifted along the edge". You can do nothing with an answer you do not have. This is the greatest difference. You Robert Powell have questions....I have none. All of mine have been answered; therefore answers are all that I have. What I am ignorant of I am simply ignorant of until such time occurs that I am no longer ignorant of it. But what I know, I know and therefore do not require belief. There is no need for me to subject my mind to games.eather you in or out but you will noy keep up this nonsensical jibberish !
Sunday, November 17th 2013 at 3:11PM
DAVID JOHNSON
ok--in your mentallyChallenged mind you HARRYESQUE deeJohnson
Again, the Creator of Adaam(as) DID NOT make a 'blackWhite' Adaam(as)
paganChristianity made a 'blackWhiteAdam' or man
The Monotheistic Teaching of AlIslaam is the Proper course for those that wish to Believe in the Creator of Adaam(as)
I believe AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw) AND love Adaam/Nur/Ibraheem/Musa/Yusuf/Isa etc to Mohamed(saw) AND I love AtTaurat, AlInjeel and AlQur'aan
the following passage includes this----
Sûrat AlAnbiyâ’a (The Prophets) XXI In the Name of Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
1. Mankinds' reckoning is always near, while they turn away in foolishness.
2. To Mankind comes an admonition of AlQur’âan from Raabbee as a recent revelation - but they hear it while they play;
3. With their hearts occupied with Evil things. Those who do wrong, conceal their private counsel, "Is Mohamed, more than a human being like you? Would you submit to illusion/ghosts---- while you see it?"
4. Mohamed said: "Raabbee knows every word spoken in the heavens and on earth. And He is the All-Hearer, the All-Knower."
5. Those that will not Believe in Monotheistic evolution say: "These revelations of AlQur’ân which are revealed to Mohamed are mixed up false dreams! No, he has invented them! - No, he is a poet! Then, let him then bring us an Ayâh (sign as a proof) like these, Prophets before were sent!"
6. Not one of the populations, of those We destroyed, believed before them though We sent them signs; will they then believe?
7. We did not send before you Mohamed, men to whom We revealed.
So ask the people of the AtTaurât, AlInjeel if you do not know. ________________________________________________________________ to your mom---sweetIrma ---farakhan is NOTHING in AlIslaam, AlQur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw)
I have prove my point to everyone ,,I allow this nut to comment on my post and he is doing nothing but slinging trash information jibberish ,,ranting like a mad man ,,nothing based on facts no scholarship ,no intellect nothing back by links to support what he is saying no logical thinking ,his comments are nothing but nonsensical jibberish !
mama ,,robert putting everything/everyone down is a real sign of his weakness to comprehend once you box him in he does not know how to use intellectual dialog so he uses dogma in order to feel safe in his word game ,,,the old man is like you said stuck on planet stupid !
Sunday, November 17th 2013 at 7:03PM
DAVID JOHNSON
I put NO ONE DOWN
you uneducated, racistlyIGNORANT colors---'blackWHITE' put yourselves DOWN when TRUTH, History, Scholarship and Science come to you.......
You, your MOM and all non-English READERS and WRITERS need to get someKIND of EDUCATION, youALL dumbDOWN ---AMERICA and your racistly IGNORANT communities
Educate yourselves and learn something sometime...............
Robert, I'm wondering why you have some words all in caps, and others not, and why you combine words (two in one), and why many of your sentences appear to have no ending? I also wonder why you speak of scholarship but never make reference to actual scholars you have learned from or grown apart from. And surely you must understand that grand generalizations, substantiated only by your own feelings, are not the stuff of true scholarship. On another note; I don't even remember identifying myself as a white man, though you and Harry put that label on me every time you mention my name. What's up with that? It would appear that color identification is addiction of yours, something that you can't help but do, even if you are intellectually opposed to the practice.
Monday, November 18th 2013 at 10:46AM
Curtis Tilleraas
Thanks for the interesting and engaging articles, David. I would have to say that I have never thought of Christianity as a white or a white man's religion. And I was always taught, as a child growing up, that Jesus was a Jew who lived and worked in what used to be called the Middle East, a land very different from 'my' own land. Also, there is a prophesy in Isaiah that describes the Messiah who is to come as someone who hardly looked human because he was so homely. He would actually be hard to look at.
Monday, November 18th 2013 at 10:54AM
Curtis Tilleraas
Isaiah 53 New American Standard Bible (NASB) The Suffering Servant
53 Who has believed our message? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? 2 For He grew up before Him like a tender shoot, And like a root out of parched ground; He has no stately form or majesty That we should look upon Him, Nor appearance that we should be attracted to Him. 3 He was despised and forsaken of men, A man of sorrows and acquainted with grief; And like one from whom men hide their face He was despised, and we did not esteem Him. 4 Surely our griefs He Himself bore, And our sorrows He carried; Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, Smitten of God, and afflicted. 5 But He was pierced through for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; The chastening for our ]well-being fell upon Him, And by His scourging we are healed. 6 All of us like sheep have gone astray, Each of us has turned to his own way; But the Lord has caused the iniquity of us all To fall on Him.
Monday, November 18th 2013 at 11:00AM
Curtis Tilleraas
Robert Powell do you notice people are starting to agree with me when it comes to your nonsensical jibberish !
Nonsensical Gibberish; Something things will never make any sense.
you uneducated, racistlyIGNORANT colors---'blackWHITE' put yourselves DOWN when TRUTH, History, Scholarship and Science come to you.......
You, your MOM and all non-English READERS and WRITERS need to get someKIND of EDUCATION, youALL dumbDOWN ---AMERICA and your racistly IGNORANT communities
this is why I block you because Its not far for my other readers to have to go through all this Gibberish and end up with nothing ! I dont want to see this stupid comments on my pages ! its worthless !
Monday, November 18th 2013 at 11:39AM
DAVID JOHNSON
@ curtis despite what you think the bible is black and white if it wasen't then why did they make Jesus white? why did they write out black history and make it white ? far as the historical record is concerned when referreing to the Bible,people are in fantasy land....PERIOD. Due to our 'historical lobotomy' peformed on us by white people this is the hardest thing for Black people to process. There's a contradistinction to be made here. Were talking scholrship now and this is where black people must become much more formiddable and tenacious. Hiding behind ideology is an ethereal escape hatch. None of us have the same reason for being on these pages; some of us here to teach, while others here to learn while others are just in the mood for a fight and others are here because they thought they had the answers and just wanna beat people over the head with their cache of information You see...even I too have a sense of humor; we must, even if only to remind one another that we are not the enemy....'ignorance' is.most have their cups too filled with stories already proven definitively false by the historical record to recieve the truth They think scholarship is a game to be played with, while it kills us everyday in labs and think tanks. i saw parts and bits of pieces of 'Black in America' and it made me want to regurgitate to see our profound ignorance parlayed in front of the world for the express purpose of ratings. it cut me to the quick and it hurt me to my soul, but as my Mother always says....some people are just too stupid to know when to be hurt. i was hurt. When you know things that others don't know you hurt for them. Knowledge is a blessing...but it is also a burdes....not a curse , as the idiotic Biblical compilers would have you believe with the silly anecdote of the Tree of knowledge of Good and Evil. The dumbest story ever told and the most nonsensical story ever swallowed. In fact the inspiration for that story came right off of the walls of the temples in Ancient Egypt. In fact it's still there....The Goddess Seshat offering the god Rameses II the fruit from the tree of life. The Greeks and Southern Syrians saw it on the walls of Ancient Egypt and copied it down but because they didnt understand the origin of the Bas Relief they just made up stories concernig all of the things they saw on the walls....HISTORICAL FACT. That's where your Bible Actually came from. It was STOLEN FROM THE LITERATURE OF ANCIENT EGYPT (the stone and the papyrus literature). Why so you think the the Pyramid Text are the oldest religious literature on this planet?
Why do you think white crackkha Jewish teachers don't wanna stand in front of a class room full of young Black youths and have to tell them that the OLDEST RELIGIOUS TEXTS ON PLANET EARTH were created and produced by their black African Ancestors in the Nile Valley Basin.....because then they gotta swallow all that 'Tarzan and Jane' bullsh*t. Then she has to tell them that no Jewish slaves built the Pyramids as they love to pretend they did. If she educates them to a truth that even she herself hasnt been educated to (as her white inetrest lies in a manufactured reality and presumed white superiority) then she has to tell those young black minds the Truth about what really happened back then....the real tragedy is that none of you are in a position to tell them cause you dont even know yourselves. I came her to turn the light on for my people who are living in darkness and to bring knowledge so they can look back on these pages and see the truth and then most of all teach this to there kids !
Monday, November 18th 2013 at 11:57AM
DAVID JOHNSON
this is why I block robert and Harry from my pages because i dont want nonsensical jibberish when I have presented new and accurate information to brake down the barriers of ignorance !
Monday, November 18th 2013 at 12:05PM
DAVID JOHNSON
Curtis,
Who do you suppose wrote Isaiah 53? Then I have a follow-up question.
Secondly, are you or are you not a Caucasian/White man?
You said this, “Color struck: America's White Jesus is a global export and false product What color was Jesus? Most American Christians—Black and White—would dismiss this question as both irrelevant and unanswerable as the Gospels fail to give us a physical description.”
Racially struck I am. What race was Jesus is very important because I’ve made the claim that prophets are racially different and what that means is that no people can claim a prophet that isn’t your race and no prophet can benefit another people.
The person that wrote the article is not as smart as I am. He doesn’t have the vision that I have. I am a genuine prophet. I am wiser than all because God feeds me.
Harry if you want to be superman does not mean you can fly you can not see through walls etc ,,,just like your not superman your not a prophet from GOD this is why I dont allow you to comment on my post / blogs ,,you want to turn this into another ''Harry the prophet blog'' AND the same old ''Harry wants all of us to prove him wrong if harry is not the prophet theme'' no no no not again ,,next thing you know harry will be calling me a dumb ass and a stupid fool for not believing in him ,,then he will start saying Islam has their prophet and the Jews have their prophet and so on so god made him the genuine prophet fpr black people . and he will go on to say ''I am wiser than all because God feeds me''. this is why I block Harry ,, the **** he says is worthless !
Harry,your mind, devoid of any real education whatsoever to speak of, it doesn't have the slightest clue of which you're attempting to proclaim as 'historical fact' or 'truth', religious or otherwise,,,, after reading some of your posts, I honestly believe that you've reached a point in your life where you are literally i.n.c.a.p.a.b.l.e. of learning anything that does not fall within the parameters of the worldview you've already been saddled with: HARRY THE PROPHET ,,,,that is your limitation you can not go beyond !
Sorry Harry but my intelligence go beyond you limited imagination also; *On my blogs people are not allowed to just say whatever they wish to just fart out of their faces. If you say something be prepared to back it up and substantiate it with requisite documentation. If you're not prepared to do it then don't say it, because if you proceed as such you will simply be blocked.
It's unfair that we should do all of the research, post all of the findings and facts furthering everyone's knowledge base and you just get to beat your chest and scream loud about what you think is correct. Your opinion has little to no value here, just as mind does.
All that matters is what can be substantiated, proved, documented and evidenced. If you're not here to contribute to that then take your sycophantic ravings to a page that will allow YOU TO.. You say you have all of back up with you when you make statements Harry? Well then start posting it so it can be perused by everyone else... we don't do 'High Priests' of information here. If you've got something to share that will substantiate your assertions and beliefs then by all means share it with the group and let us dissect it and discern for ourselves. There's no harm in that and that is the responsible way to proceed.
Opinion holds little weight in my blogs... documented proven facts hold the bulk of the weight and the gravity, with room for speculation and assertions culled from the information brought forth. Here we are scientists... first
Lastly HARRY Your opinion has little to no value here All that matters is what can be substantiated, proved, documented and evidenced. If you're not here to contribute to that then take your sycophantic ravings to Jake's C Thru Hebroo page time amd time again you seem to really show of your I Q ,,,,,BUT YOU GONNA LEARN TODAY
as fare as you being block yes you have been awarded the block because you bring nothing to the table nothing that can be substantiated, proved, documented and evidenced. for the last 3 years you have been recycling the same stupid talk and you are not worthy to come to my blogs and comment you are not worthy to grace the pages of my hard work with your gibberish and slander only to hijack the theme of the information going forward to draw attention to yourself your not about supporting blacks ,,,no your a attention seeker,,,well pay attention to this SAY IT FAST ,,,,,,I AINT GOT TIME FOR DAT ,,,,,,,
PICK AND CHOOSE YOUR WORDS IF YOU COMMENT WITH THE SAME BS IT WILL BE DELETED AND BLOCK !
WHAT HAPPEN TO THE POST WHERE YOU HARRY RAN FROM ,,,,,
robert powell I have successfully illustrate historical facts directly on this page. My scholarship stands, yours begs attention not forthcoming in many respects. When you deposit factual verifiable data on this page that can be immediately addressed as you yet to do so....it will most assuredly roundly and soundly be formiddably addressed. As you have yet to arrive at such a juncture I have up until this very moment found it quite unnecessary to do so; implication? Again I have taken the time to revue your superfluous Ebonics writing of nonsensical data exist all across the world wide web. You presenting it makes it no less factual than it already is. What next?
As history will reflect Robert Powell again has no communication skills and is unworthy for debate People have to read through all of that babby dribble to get to the good stuff and it's unfair to them. There are numerous posts on this site I'm sure that such nonsensical jibberish would be welcomed, this however is not one of them. If you're going to post here then please make your posts intelligible to people other than yourself. if you want to rant and rave i suggest you find a place and time for all that ,,,this post is worthy of saving so the youth will know the truth about black history with out robert powell's blabber ,nonsensical jibberish,,,,
Tuesday, November 19th 2013 at 12:58AM
DAVID JOHNSON
When one cannot refute a person's scholarship...one must seek alternative and 'lesser' means at maintaing a sense of credibility.....so one therefore resorts to inflammatory characterization of the person, NOT REFUTATION OF THE SCHOLARSHIP BROUGHT TO BEAR ON THE SUBJECT MATTER BY THAT PERSON. Typical behavior o loser !!
WE will not allow name calling on this blog ,,,there are black youth reading !
If you cant respect yourself respect the black youth that are seeking the truth !
or your information will be deleted ,!
Tuesday, November 19th 2013 at 1:07AM
DAVID JOHNSON
Robert,
You said this, “-----the 'hebrews' that WITNESSED --- Musa(as) ----part the Sea and destroy paganPharoah than TOOK the goldCalf as theirGOT
-----they were pagans before and after Musa(as)”
What you said is not true. The Hebrew people were monotheistic believers like Abraham before their bondage and slavery in Egypt.
After Moses they were monotheistic believers until today because they still practice the Passover that God gave to Moses and Moses gave it to his people.
I am not interest in fussing, fighting and going around in circle with you. I am use to being off your blogs anyway.
It seems to me that I being on your blogs stresses you out. You are afraid of me. You can not stop me from being who I am and if I can not say, show and prove that I am a prophet than I am at a dis-advantage to fight. At this disadvantage would unfairly give you the advantage and you didn’t fairly and rightfully earn it. How you got the advantage is by threatening me not to say certain things. I don’t want to live like that just to be on your blogs.
wrong blog HARRY ...YOUR AVOIDING TO ANSWER GOT TO THE RIGHT BLOG HERE IS THE LINK !
HARRY Your opinion has little to no value here All that matters is what can be substantiated, proved, documented and evidenced. If you're not here to contribute to that then take your sycophantic ravings to Jake's C Thru Hebroo page time amd time again you seem to really show of your I Q ,,,,,BUT YOU GONNA LEARN TODAY EVERY TIME YOU GET CAUGHT UP YOU RUN ,,,,go back to the blog http://blackinamerica.com/content/258672/p...
f you want to rant and rave i suggest you find a place and time for all that ,,,this post is worthy of saving so the youth will know the truth about black history ,,anything else will be deleted if its not substantiated my blog my rules !
f you've got something to share that will substantiate your assertions and beliefs then by all means share it with the group and let us dissect it and discern for ourselves. There's no harm in that and that is the responsible way to proceed.
Opinion holds little weight in my blogs... documented proven facts hold the bulk of the weight and the gravity, with room for speculation and assertions culled from the information brought forth
Tuesday, November 19th 2013 at 2:22AM
DAVID JOHNSON
learn to be intellectual and use communication skills to showcase intelligence learn when to fold childish augments that no weight ! worthless dialog ,,no thank you !
Tuesday, November 19th 2013 at 2:25AM
DAVID JOHNSON
Hello David,
You said this, “,,anything else will be deleted if its not substantiated my blog my rules !”.
If I can’t comment on your blogs with out the threat of being deleted I will use my right to post my own blogs to answer any member if I think they could be corrected with out having to endure your threat of being deleted.
I don’t delete any one or restrict them from saying what is on their minds including you when you post your comments on my blogs and I deserve the same respect from you.
"robert powell I have successfully illustrate historical facts directly on this page. My scholarship stands"
Tuesday, November 19th 2013 at 12:58AM David Johnson
"What you said is not true. The Hebrew people were monotheistic believers like Abraham before their bondage and slavery in Egypt"
Tuesday, November 19th 2013 at 1:42AM Harry Watley
twoAuthors-----djohnson/harry share the same mentallyChallenged racistMind
----both have a problem with ME, writing that the 'Hebrews' that SPENT 500+ years under the RULE and BONDAGE(physical/mental) ----that ALL American/European, paganChristian, Jewish, Islaamic--ALL societies agree with THIS History ----all these communities RECORD --Historically ----that Musa(as) was raised by paganPharoah as his own....he was and looked like paganPharoah
----ORIGINAL Hebrew descendants----needed Musa(as) to become a Prophet by the Creator of Adaam(as) BEFORE they realized that their DEEN(religion) was MONOTHEISM.....
THIS IS A WORLD and BIA Historical NEED to UNDERSTAND
-----as the African under 500 YEARS of RULE and BONDAGE(physical/mental) to paganChristianity is 2013 a MAJORITY paganChristian ---- African Americans did NOT choose any African DEEN(religion-way of life) OR MONOTHEISM at FREEDOM
the two Authors djohnson and watley are BOTH mentallyChallenged DELUSIONISTS----
THERE are NO or EVER were---- 'whiteORblack' Hebrews ---- colorIdentification was not a THOUGHT that the Creator of Adaam(as) gave the Family of Adaam(as) -----racistIgnorance and colorIdentification are paganChristian---euro'WhiteSupremist' IDEAS
ROBERT POWELL again for the eductifaction of the readers i will address your comment
seems like you write in Ebonics and your communication skillz are way off the chart there is no intelligence in your writing scholarship is not to be found ! there is no factual verifiable data just your OPINION and no one want to read all that
where is the reference to the historical records none you comment is worthless i will give you 24 hrs to come with factual verifiable data or you will be block
this is why I block you because Its not fair for my other readers to have to go through all this Gibberish and end up with nothing ! I dont want to see this stupid comments on my pages ! its worthless ! you will not distort my scholarship with your baby Ebonics gibberish !
Your opinion has little to no value here All that matters is what can be substantiated, proved, documented and evidenced. PUT THAT IN YOUR WRITINGS...
Tuesday, November 19th 2013 at 12:12PM
DAVID JOHNSON
SO no one gets lost with all this back and forth gibberish lets move forward let us go back to see what Hebrews REALLY looked like. The earliest authentic pictures of real Hebrews that we have, date back to before Christ.
They are Assyrian relief's showing Hebrews, and others that they conquered, in pictorial scenes detailing the battles fought, with associated text. These relief's decorated Assyrian palaces, and were no doubt used to gloat over their conquest of the Hebrews and others. Here we are using pictures of: Assyrian King Shalmaneser IIIs "Black Obelisk" (858 B.C.). Assyrian king Tiglath-pilesar III’s relief's of his conquest of a city near the Sea of Galilee (730 B.C.). Assyrian King Sennacherib’s relief's of the conquest of the Judean City of Lachish (701 B.C.). The four pictures below, are from those Assyrian relief's. (These relief's are stored in the British Museum, London England).
This video reveals the deception that has become a burden for most people to deal with nowadays, proving that the ancient Israelites were black and not European looking like. It also reveals how the Messiah looked like when He was on earth and how He will look like when He comes. This video is to cause you to know the truth so that you may repent and prepare the way for the coming of the MESSIAH. Shalom http://youtu.be/Cmu8KCHHWKk Tuesday, November 19th 2013 at 12:35PM
DAVID JOHNSON
The reason that we have to depend on outside sources for pictures of them, is because Whites destroyed all that the Hebrews ever created. Even down to the very religious writings that they claim to worship by. That fact is that ALL Hebrew writings, even the SEPTUAGINT {the original Bible}, which was only roughly Hebrew (it was made for the Greek King of Egypt, Ptolemy II (Philadelphus) in 282-246 B.C.), has been destroyed. Everything except for the "Dead Sea Scrolls" which were found in 1947, in Qumran, a village situated about twenty miles east of Jerusalem!
I want you to understand that at this time Alexander the Great has taken Egypt ... Upon the death of Alexander the Great in 323 B.C, the throne of Egypt fell to Ptolemy I. He was a veteran soldier and ..... 282-246 B.C.. Ptolemy II Philadelphus, which means 'Brother/Sister-loving', was the second ruler of the Ptolemaic Dynasty.
ok we will pause here for everyone to catch up ! do not pass go !
Tuesday, November 19th 2013 at 12:43PM
DAVID JOHNSON
Here you will see the Pushkin Museum has put together a rare collection of 130 religious icons dating from the 14th to 16th centuries, known as a golden age of religious art in Russia. It's only the third time an exhibition of this type has been brought together. The bible is clear that the Israelites of antiquity were a people of color.
Encyclopedia Americana (1985): "Khazar, an ancient Turkic speaking people who ruled a large and powerful state in the steppes North of the Caucasus Mountains from the 7th century to their demise in the mid 11th century A.D... In the 8th Century it's political and religious head... as well as the greater part of the Khazar nobility, abandoned paganism and converted to Judaism... (The Khazars are believed to be the ancestors of most Russian and Eastern European Jews)."
"My studies have led me to the conclusion that the Septuagint predates the Hebrew text and that the 9th-10th century Hebrew text is a translation of the Greek and not the other way around.. The extant Greek is centuries earlier than the oldest Hebrew text. There is also the fact that most of the quotes in the NT don't match the Hebrew OT, they match the Septuagint."
That I backed up with two considerations.
1) The NT quotes match the Septuagint, not the Hebrew text, and I gave an example. Look at the New Testament quotes and compare them with your Hebrew bible and with the Septuagint and prove that I am wrong. The New English Translation of the Septuagint can be accessed here:
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Tuesday, November 19th 2013 at 9:54PM
DAVID JOHNSON
seems like robert is going off on the deep end with his ranting ,,well you know its time to delete !!
Tuesday, November 19th 2013 at 9:55PM
DAVID JOHNSON
Just catching up David. Harry and Robert may be in love.
Tuesday, November 19th 2013 at 10:05PM
Steve Williams
well as you can see i ask bob to mantain a good order and once again he is on that nonsensical jibberish 1
WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE WORLD AS WHEN HARRY AND ROBERT ARE TALKING ABOUT:... STONEHENGE IN BRITAIN ASSUMES IT FORM OF TODAY...SUNFLOWERS APPEAREDIN NORHT AMERICA...GLASS IS INVENTED SIMULTANEOUSLYIN EGYPT AND MESOPOTAMIA, DECIMAL MUMBERS BEGIN TO BE USED IN CHINA, EGYPTIAN GOVERNOR IN JERSALEM APPEALS FOR REINFORMATION...AND YES PEOPLE LIKE YOU HARRY AND ROBERT EXISTED TRYING TO DISTROY ALL OF IT AS IT RELATES TO EDUCATE!!!EDUCATE!!!EDUCATE!!!. NUP/SMILE)...
@ HARRY WHAT WAS THE NAME OF MOSE'S BIRTH PARENTS?!?...HOW ABOUT YOU ROBERT?1/...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@BLOG KING NOTICE AS JAKIE HAS ONLY TWO MORE DAYS TO GO BEFORE HIS SELF EXILE ON BLOGS...ROBERTIS PUTTING UP A FAKE HE IS NOT FOLLOWING HARRY AND JAKIE BY ROBERT IS NOW ON HARRY['S BLOGS PUTTING HIS 'BROTHER HARRY DOWN...HE PUTS EVERY THING / BODY DOWN BUT JUDISM / JEWS IN EVERY WAY, FORM OR FASHION.LOL!!!(SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...AND, I SHALL LEAVE ON TIS MOTE OF A TRUTH I HEARD SOMEONE SAY A FEW WEEKS AGO...
IF JESUS COULD BEAT ALL ODDS AND GET INTO OUR CHRISTIAN NATION, HE WOULD BE UNACCEPTED AS HE WOULD BE POOR, OUT OF WORK, SPOKE NO ENGLISH, HOMELESS AND SPEAKING 'EQUALITY' AND TAKING CARE OF OUR MOST NEEDY!!!...ANYONE HEAR SARAH PALIN PROMOTION OF THE TPARTY'S/ PARTY OF CHRISTIAN, FAMILY VALUES IN AMERICA TAKE ON THE POPE?!?... (NUP)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@CURTIS...AS TO WHY MAKE JESUS A WHITE MAN...NOW ASK YOUR OWNSELF THIS CURTIS...WOULD YOU BE ACCEPTED IF YOU HUNG A BLACK CHRIST, JESUS IN PLACE OF A WHITE CHRIST, JESUS...IT IS SOMETING TO BRING PEACE AND STABILITY TO THE MASS' THAT HAVE BEEN TAUGHT THEY HAVE NO WILL...I AM NOT DOING THIS GOD IS OR LETS PUT IT ANOTHERY WAY...
HOW MANY CHRISTIANS IN THE STATE OF ILL IS NOW SAYING THEY LOST THEIR HOMES, BUSINES BECAUSE IT IS GOD'S WILL AND GOD ONLY DOES GOOD THINGS???...
IT IS CALLED COMMON SENSE AND SOMEETIMES IT IS CALLED 'SURVIVAL ' TACTICS...OT ME I CALL IT BARING FALSE WITNESS BUT EVEN TIS FOR ME AND BY ME IS OVER RULED BY SAYING AND ACCEPTONG...HUMAN BEHAVIORS AND DON'T MINDE IN FACT I AM PROUD TO BE CALLED AN ATHEIST AS I LOOK AT ALL TINGS FROM ALL SIDES OF AN ISSUE.(SMILE)...
ANYONE SEE NAY POLITICIANS SAYING PRESIDENT BHO KEEP YOUR BIG GOVERNMENT OUTOF MY STATE BECAUSE THIS IS NOT AS SCIENCE SAYS A MAJOR CHANGE IN OUR WEATHER PATTERN AND WHILE YOU ARE AT IT KEEP OUT YOUR STINKING HEALTH CARE...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@ROBERT WHAT HEBREWS DID ALL OR ANY OF THIS OF WHICH YOU SAY...WHO HAD CREATED ISLAM/ALLAH AT THE TIME YOU MENTIONED BESIDES Y-O-U, ROBERT????????????????????? YOU KNOW ERY WELL YOU ARE NOT DEALING WITH EX SLAVES, FEMALE OBJECTS NOR STUCK ON STUPID SON OF MINE. (SMILE)...
WHICH LEAVES ONLY YOU ROBERT AS THE ONE YOU CAN PROVE WHAT YOU SAY TO ...L-I-V-E WITH IT, ROBERT, LIVE WITH IT. (S-M-I-L-E)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
NOW ROBERT SINCE I HAVE TAKEN CARE OF YOU ON STEVE'S SPELLCHECKLOG POST...BACK TO YOU HERE ON MY SON'T BLOG...
ROBERT IT IS "I" NOT REV. CURTIS WHO CALLS YOU A J-E-W...SO SINCE I HAVE BEEN THERE DONE THAT WITH YOU IN YOUR YEARS OF MAKING CLAIMS THAT ISLAM IS JUST FINE WITH YOUR 'ALLAH' AS LONG AS MINISTER FARRAKHAN WAS NOT INVOLVED...
YOU NOW ARE TRYING TO FAKE CLAIMS THAT THE GOD OF JUDISM IS JUST FINE WITH YOUR JEWISH GOD AS LONG AS REV. CURTIS HAS NO TIES TO IT...
THEREFORE ROBERT, YOUR FAKE CURTIS IS AN UNACCPETABLE JEW THEREFORE YOU CAN NOT ACCPET JUDISM IS A FAKE AS WELL AS YOUR FAKE ISLAM IS IN THE REAL WORLD....
SO ROBERT, "I" REPEAT YOU HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE ON TIS VERY BLOG TO SAY,"--------------------------------" (ROTFLM PROUD BLACK A-L-L WOMAN AO)(S-M-I-L-E)...LIVE WITH IT AS ME BEING YOUR SITE LIVING NIGHTMARE T-R-U-T-H SERUM> (S-M-I-L-E)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@ROBERT YOU GET ANOTHER CHANCE TO SAY HEBREW IS A PAGAN RELIGION. LOL!!!(SMILE)...HOW ABOUT WHITESLAVE CARTOON RELIGION, ROBERT???????????????????????????????????????????...COME ON ROBERT AREN'T THOSE VERY WORDS AND DESCRIPTIONS YOUR CALLING CARDS??????????????????... YOUR ID CARDS???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@HARRY, JESUS BECAME WHITE AND CHRISTIAN FOR THE SAME REASON YOU MAKE ROBERT AN AMERICAN AND JAKIE A BLACK AMERICA...IT SUIT'S YOUR AGANDA...FOR EXAMPLE HOW MANY MIDDLE-EAST PEOPLE DO YOU CALL 'WHITE' / CHRISTIANS?????????????????????????????...AND NOT JEWISH, MUSLIMS...
HARRY, PLEASE CHECK AND RECHECK OUT WHEN IN THE WORLD IS THE ISRAELI STATE LOCATED ...IS IS IT HARRY IN THE MIDDLE-EAST OR I-N EUROPE???????????????????????????????????????????????????????...
"AND, THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE" (S-M-I-L-E)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
HOW INTERESTING ...
ROBERT NEVER DEFENDS A RELIGION AS BEING HUMAN WORTHY, EVEN ISLAM, AND YET HERE HE IS DEFEND THE HEBREWS... MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...(SMILE)...
@ROBERT, IF "I" AM WRONG ABOUT YOUR NOT DEFENDING ISLAM THEN SAY YOU ARE WORNG ABOUT MINISTER FARRAKAHN AND MY BEAUTIFUL ALMOST PERFECT DAUGHTER AS DEVOT PRACTIONEERS OF 'ISLAM'...AS "I" ONLY DEAL IN P-R-O-O-F-S NOT EMOTIONAL OUT BURST THE CHANGE WITH EACH BLOG COMMENT...
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
