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Are black children BORN academically slower than other groups? (4750 hits)

"WE are LOSING our munchkins by sending them in UNPREPARED TO COMPETE.
It is no different than sending someone off to war and they missed
basic training." An excerpt from "Cotton Pickin' Paycheck-A 21st
Century Journal of Escape from Slavery" by Joan E. Gosier


According to the 2005 U.S. Department of Education,Survey for
children 3-5 years old

69% of black children could count to 20 or higher
65% of white children could count to 20 or higher

61% of black children could write their name
60% of white children could write their name

44% of black children had 3 to 4 skills
47% of white children had 3 to 4 skills

67% of black children reads or pretends to read storybooks
75% of white children reads or pretends to read storybooks

So, based on the above data is it SKILL or WILL that is causing our
children to fall through the cracks once they get to school?

I interpret the above to show that our black children are naturally
born smart and talented but lack the correct HOME preparation to stay
on par and excel past other groups when in a classroom that requires
LITERACY.


What do U think?

Joan
www.CottonPickinPaycheck.com
Posted By: Joan E. Gosier HBCUkidz.com
Wednesday, February 25th 2009 at 11:00AM
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I do believe that home preparation plays a major part in how a child excels in school. Some parents take the time work with their children from the time they can speak. By the time I was 2yrs old, I was reading fluently, speaking clearly and knew all of the basics plus some. I was the teacher's helper in pre-school. I passed this on to my children and when my son was 3yrs old, I was looking for a pre-school for him. As we stood in the office waiting for the Director, my son was reading the bulletin board out loud and the woman said " Oh I see he can read fluently" I said yes, she proceeds to say " You know they say that you should not teach a child too much too soon because it can cause them to be burn out" I said, you know , if a child is asking for the information then you teach it to them. I kindly grabbed my son by the hand and to her that my son would not be attending her facility because I see that she would be interferring with his academic growth and that I would not be having.

Unfortunately, the bar has been set so low for our children in the school systems, that they are not challenged and unless the parent (s) do their part in the best interest of the child (ren) they fall through the cracks. Anytime a child can recite word for word the lyrics to a song, be it hip hop or R & B, but can't spell his/her own name, it is a guide to what is important in the home and what the child is exposed to.

I don't know if you ever read a book called " Mrs B's Classroom" by Leslie Baldacci. Great book that gives a look into the window of what is happening in the school systems all across the country.
Wednesday, February 25th 2009 at 2:06PM
Marquerite Burgess
AMEN MARGUERITE! SUCH A PROFOUND AND INSIGHTFUL RESPONSE! U touched on so many key points. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING U SAID!

Can I have permission to QUOTE U?
Wednesday, February 25th 2009 at 4:33PM
Joan E. Gosier HBCUkidz.com
Thank you and Yes you may quote me. Education is an area of utmost importance to me. I truly am a believer in knowledge is power and that we can not wait for others to teach our children all of what they need to be prepared in this world.
Wednesday, February 25th 2009 at 4:40PM
Marquerite Burgess
Looking at the stats you listed, it appears that it is a 50-50 toss up. Black children scored more in the first two catagories and the white kids scored better in the last two catagories. I guess it depends on how you interpret the data.
Wednesday, February 25th 2009 at 9:40PM
Jen Fad
Here you go again. This is the same type of stuff that monkey cartoons do in reverse. Is it possible to build self esteem without tearing someonne else down? I know they are just numbers. But we all know what happens. You got to put the work in to get the results out. Families who strees education get kids who get help on subjects and support. Then of course some kids just like school or school work and do it. But lil johhnie comes home and does no homework ask momma whats this word and momma aint got time. he is prime candidate for OTHER RESULTS. numbers....
Thursday, February 26th 2009 at 8:01AM
To answer your question......HELL NO!!!!
Thursday, February 26th 2009 at 8:05AM
Earl you took the words right out of my mouth. Black kids can learn just like any other. The extent to which they do is dependent not just on the schools but the parents and the home environment. Too often many parents think ďthatís what schools are forĒ but we have to instill in the children a curiosity about things and help them develop their imagination, get them to think and show them how to learn. Like Obama said, turn off the TVs, talk to them about the world and why things are the way they are.

A lot of emphasis today is put on the resources of the schools, and that can have an impact, but I think where schools are lacking, itís the parents who must put forth the effort to make up the difference.

Thursday, February 26th 2009 at 11:17AM
USA Census says 84% of Asian children lived with 2 parents, 78% of white non-hispanic did, 70% of hispanic and 38% OF SlaveAmerican(BLACK)----...................

This is where I will get the punishment----
the reason for SlaveAmerican figures like this is: SlaveAmerican FEMALES.
They have been and continue to be the impediment for the growth of Americans of Slave descent.
Unfortunately(we dont want to admit), Slave womens' culture was to spread her legs to the MasterAmerican, then watch as the MasterAmerican sold his and her child to another Master to continue this cultural legacy.
And of course the statistics prove my point, and by the way Our Leader President Baraka Hussein Obama was never infected by a SlaveAmerican female in his upbringing.
Thursday, February 26th 2009 at 12:49PM
robert powell
Uh oh.
Thursday, February 26th 2009 at 12:56PM
Robert....are you volunteering to put your head in a noose? Yikes!!
Thursday, February 26th 2009 at 2:49PM
Robert,

According to the NY Times and interview with Professor John U.
Ogbu "...middle-class black parents in general spent no more time on
homework or tracking their children's schooling than poor white
parents." He surveyed 2 PARENT MIDDLE CLASS BLACK PARENTS so this can't just be blamed or explained by the # of single black woman.

SOURCE:http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?
res=9E0DE2D91338F933A05752C1A9649C8B63

DOCUMENTED LIST OF ACHIEVEMENT GAPS:
http://hbcukids.com/Resources.html

We have to be SMARTER than what we are dealing with. Stop blaming and start DOING THE WORK.

The results above were % of children NOT YET IN SCHOOL, so we can't keep blaming the schools, teachers, rap music, weather, and everything else under the sun.

WE MUST STOP WASTING PRECIOUS TIME YAPPING ABOUT Rihanna and Chris and GETTING WITH OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS ON HOW TO PREPARE OUR MUNCHKINS FROM BIRTH!

WE CAN DO THIS!
Thursday, February 26th 2009 at 4:25PM
Joan E. Gosier HBCUkidz.com
You said it Joan... Rihanna & Chris......that's not news...yuk!! Especially positive news, a complete waste of "air" space.
Thursday, February 26th 2009 at 5:00PM
OMG...Joan...you used the word "born". I am grappling with usage of the word. Do you mean "action"...the act of being born or were you referring to genetics?
Thursday, February 26th 2009 at 5:07PM
Earl, I had a mom in another forum share her testimony of how she READ AND SPOKE to her child in the womb. I saw the sonogram of my youngest munchkin ATTACK an inserted needle as a FETUS during one of my prenatal exams. My hubby and I quickly REALIZED EVEN AT THAT MOMENT she was GIFTED with a mind to survive. She shocked the attending physician of her awareness of her environment and her INSTINCT on how to defend it. Now at age 5, we take our responsibility of equipping her for LIFE no less seriously. She is BRIGHT, ENERGETIC and CREATIVE. She even has her own website that we display her artwork-LOL.
www.WeALLstartsmall.com

I BASICALLY BELIEVE THAT AS A COMMUNITY WE NEED TO START PREPARING AND EQUIPPING OUR BABIES FROM THE TIME THEY ARE BORN TO SURVIVE.

In the 21st Century FREEDOM is a choice.

WE CAN DO THIS!
Thursday, February 26th 2009 at 5:58PM
Joan E. Gosier HBCUkidz.com
My wife read to our 2 sons in the womb as well. They are excellent readers. I guess, its a mystery and God is not telling. :-)
Thursday, February 26th 2009 at 7:37PM
Earl which is probably why GOD tells me to start these discussions.
Thursday, February 26th 2009 at 9:05PM
Joan E. Gosier HBCUkidz.com
Putting this in context, when it comes to children or anyone, of the homosapien species, I don't think the melanin in one's skin or ones race has anything to do with one's learning capacity or capabilities. Culture, however, definitely plays a part. What we put emphasis on, in our home or cultural or community life is what we manifest to our children undoubtedly. I think that's why the playing field isn't always level or equal when it comes to some of the educational institutions throughout the nation. For example, it's often said urban and inner city schools lack adequate learning facilities, and tools and so forth, compared to the schools you find in the suburbs. Education starts at home. Some parents may put more emphasis on training, rearing or raising their children for the working arena, blue collar jobs, opposed to corporate America, for example, because they know the odds are slim that their children will ever make it to college, and graduate, rather they find it impractical because of racism, or unaffordable, or because their child lacks interest or discipline, etc. I definitely don't think black children are born academically slower than other groups. I think alot of black parents raise their kids for survival and emphasize that in which they find important, based on so many different factors. It seems now, that America has a black President so to speak, black parents will probably be more hopeful for their children's future as well as accepting and supportive of their dreams. Also, I think we should take into account how they measure academics, or decipher academic targets, because I really don't believe what is being taught in the hood, or a predominantly African American community, is the same curriculum they teach in the suburbs or an Anglo-American dominated community. Having attended schools all my life, in which I could count the number of black students on all of 10 fingers, most of my African-American related education came from my parents, and their multitude of African American oriented books, from The Harlem Renaissance to Soul on Ice. Great blog. I have to question what "correct preparation" is however, given my sentiments above, -correct by America's standards (mainstream), or by our own... I remember growing up, even though my favorite subject was English, I hated reading, but read and wrote well, maybe just not up to speed, and had to take remedial reading courses in the 7th grade. I came from a home where my parents read to us every night. I think when we hold he same expectations for everyone academically, without taking into consideration one's cultural affiliations, it doesn't seem fair. My daughter is going through speech therapy, since she was 3, she's 4 now, and it shouldn't be surprising because she's learning two different languages all at once it seems, and English with different accents, so some of her pronunciations are off. Literacy, especially English grammar, would probably be much easier to grasp, in my opinion by Anglo-American cultured individuals, compared to any other race of people, for the obvious reasons, it's their language. And even though some of our ancestors have never seen Africa, and America is all they know, broken English or ebonics rather, is still passed down, it's not an excuse for our lack of Literacy, it's an explanation...
That's what I think...
Saturday, February 28th 2009 at 1:09AM
Maryanne Campbell
@Maryanne....Any school district that accepts "Federal" funds..must use the federal curriculum. It would behoove you to study the roles of "tax exempt foundations" policies in public schools. It is a fact, that a student who has mastered reading, will excell in all other academic disciplines.

Dr. Samuel Blumenfeld, revealed the reading problem, in his book..."The New Illiterates", for the first time the true origin of look-say: Rev. Thomas H. Gallaudet's method of teaching the deaf to read.

Examples of the late Dr. Thomas H. Gallaudet's method:

Look-Say: A method of reading instruction that begins with the child memorizing a battery of sight words by their configurations, as if they were Chinese ideographs. Once the child has memorized a sufficient number of sight words, he or she is introduced to beginning consonant letters in order to reduce way-out guessing. In look-say, which is also known as the whole-word or sight method, the child is taught the various strategies of figuring out the text, which include picture clues, context clues, and phonetic clues. In general, this method of teaching produces inaccurate, subjective readers as opposed to the alphabetic-phonetic method

Whole Language: A philosophy of reading instruction based on the belief that children learn to read in the same way they learn to speak: naturally. Thus the child is introduced to whole texts at the very beginning and is expected to learn a variety of strategies which help him or her figure out what the words say. Some phonics is taught as in look-say, but is meant to be used by the reader only as a last-resort strategy. The emphasis is on looking at words at wholes, as units of potential meaning, and "interpreting" the text rather than reading for accuracy. Teaching phonics is discouraged because it breaks up words into letters and syllables which have no meaning and negates the idea of the whole. This method of teaching produces inaccurate, subjective readers.

It's called methodology. Our kids are not taught the proper way of reading. In my opinion this is "deliberate" And criminal for the educational system to treat black american children as lab rats. You find more of this experimentation on black kids in the schools rooms. By reading B.F. Skinner, Ivan Pavlov, and, Dr. Blumenfeld's outstanding book on this issue...NEA: Trojan Horse in American Education.
Briefly about Thomas H. Gallaudet:
Thomas H. Gallaudet is the father of deaf education in the United States. Look-say reading methods were developed around 1810 for deaf mutes by a truly remarkable man, Thomas Hopkins Gallaudet. Gallaudet's original intention was to use the look-say method only for deaf mutes who have no concept of a spoken language and are therefore unaware of phonetic sounds for letters. The Gailaudet system works well for deaf mutes, but there is no obvious reason to use it for those who have the ability to hear sounds. .......
@Joan, with your permission I would like to link a 'site' for furthering reading and understanding of the experimentation that is being used on children in the public schools, especially at primary & elementary level.....

http://www.sntp.net/education/sutton_look_see.htm
Saturday, February 28th 2009 at 1:12PM
AMEN! SHARE ! SHARE! SHARE! AND SHARE SOME MORE!

Earl and Maryanne, I think U are both on to something REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY BIG.

My oldest is in the 1st grade so I am ALL UP IN THE CURRICULUM. I too noticed this "new" way of teaching reading. So my hubby and I supplement with phonics books from the retail stores to teach it AT HOME OLD SCHOOL STYLE. My hubby works with at-risk kids most of his career so he has a ton of DECODING books that we use too. Our munchkin began 1st grade at about 3rd grade reading level but NOT yet on comprehension. So we began to try to help her connect the dots better and I can definitely see it paying off in ALL AREAS OF HER EDUCATION. She presented before our church congregation an original poem and got a standing ovation. No one could believe a 6 year old could not only memorize an original poem but deliver with such strong conviction and passion.

I can attest it was not LEARNED from school-LOL.

But we work closely with her teacher and I even had her present it to her teacher too so she "knew what she is working with".

My point is that SOMETHING AINT RIGHT BUT WE NEED TO BE THE ONES FIXING IT!
Saturday, February 28th 2009 at 1:22PM
Joan E. Gosier HBCUkidz.com
I am working on a NEW analysis for next month that QUANITIFIES this impact in our ECONOMY which will DOLLARIZE some of the choices mentioned by Maryanne. Should be done soon.
Saturday, February 28th 2009 at 1:32PM
Joan E. Gosier HBCUkidz.com
Earl...It makes sense, it sounds good. Learning consists of reading for the most part. You have to read in every subject. I feel some children, and some people in general, may be more mathematically inclined than others... you know right brained vs. left brained, or more inclined to the arts, then the sciences. I have yet to take in the new school system, my daughter's only 4. From what I hear some schools, nowadays, have gotten rid of books, and lockers and have put everything on the net, homework assignments included. It's a new era no doubt. Fortunately, nowadays, in some states, parents can place their children in private or specialty schools, and if they can't afford it, they can get financial help from the government, so parents do have choices as to whether their child attends a public school or not. I absolutely believe the federal curriculum isn't the same across the board in public schools...other than "The no child left behind" act... they may have the same policies and so forth, but I doubt the same subjects are being taught or even emphasized, for example, African-American literature isn't perhaps as prominent in Anglo-American dominated schools, as black dominant schools. How would you define the proper way of reading, when there's so many alternatives I'd assume? Phonics worked for me. Kids and people learn differently, no doubt, what works for one, may not work for another.

Saturday, February 28th 2009 at 2:23PM
Maryanne Campbell
Maryanne another thing to consider is this. Who is a child's FIRST TEACHER?
SHE should know what her child is struggling with FIRST.

Here is a list of links that worked/works for us. There is even a 4 year old's ONLINE READING TEST that I HIGHLY recommend as it helped us hone in on the areas that our munchkins had not yet been exposed to at home.

http://hbcukids.com/Home2.html

(IT IS LETTER F under our favorite links A-Z on the bottom right side of the page)
Saturday, February 28th 2009 at 3:10PM
Joan E. Gosier HBCUkidz.com
Maryanne....All parents should use caution.." getting financial help from the government"..... Maryanne please indulge me, "What is the color of Math & Science?" Phonetics time honored proven. There is no substitue for properly learning to read. Again, I emphasize, that if the school district is receiveing federal funds...they are using the federal curriculum. Let compare apples and oranges....inner city schools do not have the tax-supported base as do suburbia.

@Maryanne, have you ever heard of the "NAEP"? Each year, certain children are selected to participate in the National Accessment Education Progress[NAEP]. It is mandated by congress. However, participation by states according to federal law is voluntary. The NAEP is called "The Nation's Report Card it accesses subjects as reading, writing, mathamatics, and other subjects included in in the National Education Goals, 8 new mandates for education reform associated with AMERICA200/GOALS2000....... for further reading
http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/OtherPDFs/When%20Johnny%20Takes%20The%20Test_Fields_Leslie_Hoge__2005_10pg_Edu.pdf

Here's a very informative link Regional Training Laboratories (Federally funded Marxist training camps.
http://www.authorityresearch.com/1997-02%20Regional%20Training%20Laboratories.htm#REGIONAL_TRAINING_LABORATORIES_________

These ten regional training facilities are funded by the Department of Education. You will be surprise, who actually develops and implements public education policies/curriculum.
Saturday, February 28th 2009 at 9:37PM
I think we can agree that WE CAN DO THIS!
www.cottonpickinpaycheck.com
Saturday, February 28th 2009 at 10:16PM
Joan E. Gosier HBCUkidz.com
I loveee your blog! As a children author who vends throughout the community I find that some parents dismiss my book all together to purchase something less of value for thier children. Just recently, I set up to do face painting and sell my book "Imani Has The Most Exciting Dream!" which is filled with words to challenge a first grader and affirmations to help build a child's self esteem - shameless plug, however. I had already packed up my art supplies when the mother approached me with a ten dollar bill in her hand about to offer it to me as she asked the question "Are you already packed!" All the while her four year old daughter moved her little hand several times across my book cover engaged with the illustration...When I informed the mother that yes, I was packed and had stayed 15 minutes over time but she could have the book for $10. She looked disappointed...Mind you,this is a hard cover full color book with a picture gallery, address listing, definitions page, affirmation activity page that retails at 14.95. This woman looked me in my face and stated, oh I don't have any money. WHAT! In the hamburger patties is wrong with some people. My face painting designs were $8 at the time. Well, I just wish the mother and child a sad good bye. As a face painter my job is easy, but as an author I truly have to work to sell a book. Is that not crazy!? Truth be told this happens more often than I would like to mention.
Wednesday, March 4th 2009 at 6:23PM
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