All of the guys spoke really poetically and were good, eh! they all articulated significant ideas, thoughts, and beliefs about all 3 religions. However, I'm going with the last guy not because he was the best, but he gave pertinent examples or tangible facts about The Church and how she has contributed so much world wide with the transcribing of the bible from Hebrew to english, establishment of hospitals, beautiful places to worship, colleges, schools, etc, ... No matter what scandals have occurred, those things mentioned by the last guy are facts!; without
The Church, Martin Luther wouldn't have been the Father of Protestantism. Luther took or copied so many things from the Church and many Christians have no idea that so many things that they have are as a direct result of the Catholics. It's definitely making me think.
Monday, December 10th 2012 at 11:19PM
Jen Fad
Or was it from Latin into English. Anyway I can't remember.
Don't be fooled by Irma's flattering words; she hates the Church and every opportunity she gets, she bashes Catholics, Protestants, and anything about God. She herself turned her back on the Church to worship false god called Buddah . However, she has known Truth and now is and continues to sow discord among the brethren as she allows Satan , the fallen to use her!
Why is she agreeing with you? I do not know! She has no relationship whatsoever with the Messiah. She has chosen another path that leads directly to destruction according to the Holy Scriptures. For Jesus is The Way, The Truth, and The life..... Not a way... He is THEE WAY!
I'd say that it was Religion or the institution that pointed the way to the Messiah as Jesus planned irrespective of the imperfections of fallible men, but thank God for His Grace and Mercy in spite of our faults which are designed indirectly to run us faster to the Cross.
I know these fallible men ran me directly to Him, Quick-Fast-and-In-a-Hurry! Hello somebody!
Tuesday, December 11th 2012 at 2:27PM
Jen Fad
I have colleagues who are Muslims; I admire the way they pray. No matter where they are, when its time for prayer.... They spead out their mats- No shame- and pray. You can hear the theme of prayer in the Muslim version. Muslims are obedient followers of Islam for which I admire and they believe in dependence on Allah. I ry to see the good points in everything.
I'm praying more because I'm learning everyday that its essential to Relationship.
And you have the freedom to leave my blog!
Tuesday, December 11th 2012 at 9:51PM
Jen Fad
Muslims have a very obedient type attitude when it comes to Islam. I desire to perfect my prayer. I doubt that I can do it 5 times a day at specific times like Muslims, but I will start where I am with twice a day.
Friday, December 14th 2012 at 2:03PM
Jen Fad
''everyone that says to me lord lord is ''not'' going to make it into the kingdom of heaven'' JESUS SPEAKING !
REAL Muslims have a very obedient type attitude ,,,, HYPOCRITES,,,,COME IN ALL RELIGIONS ,,, It is amazing that we, as humans, have failed to learn from the mistakes of the past. We still cling to religion to guide us and we still sit in judgement of others who are not like we are. We fight wars in the name of God, even though the commandments tell us not to kill,but to love one another ,,,I cant do that ,,am i going to hell ??
Friday, December 14th 2012 at 2:37PM
DAVID JOHNSON
as always, jenFad inspires
BUT
let us understand ONE item,
-Muslims submit to the Creator of Adaam(as), his Qur'aan and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw)
----example-------At the completion of the stopping of Idol, paganWorship in Mekkah -----
---- Mohamed(saw) forgave the pagans, christians and jews that attempted to KILL him for 20 years, he forgave the pagans, christians and jews that through animalMess at him while he had prayed for 20 years to the Creator of Adaam(as)----
so i would write, Muslims have a very SUBMISSIVE attitude to the Creator of Adaam(as) and the Sunnah of Mohamed(saw)
sorry jenFad but ------- as for the biaKing, banting
biaKing of noKnowledge------NO Believer of AlQur'aan and SUnnah of Mohamed(saw), no Muslim has EVER fought a WAR in the way of living---AdDeen or what youCALL religion
---- either one believes Monotheistic Thought or Doesnt -----either one submits to Monotheistic Thought or Doesnt -----either one has the discipline to complete Monotheistic Thought or Doesnt
and yourHypocriticism is NOT yours to play with................
and yourDirection in Life or Death is not yours to play with ...........
learn something sometime for yourBenefit, not mine..............
I think that in the orignal sense and meaning of the word, obedience is an act of submission and not meant in the way most people interpret it as out of fear of losing one's job, possessions but rather its done out of love.
your inspiration always means to me ---- to Understand Definitions
Wiki WRITES:
Obedience, in human behavior, is a form of "social influence in which a person yields to explicit instructions or orders from an authority figure"Obedience is generally distinguished from compliance, which is behavior influenced by peers, and from conformity, which is behavior intended to match that of the majority.
Submission is the acknowledgement of the legitimacy of the power of one's superior or superiors. __________________________________________________________________________________ Submission as i talk about above means i, am certain that -----obeidience is NOT submission.
i, as a humanBeing, must FIRST assure myself of the Legitimacy of the Power: who or what is the power
----and in the Monotheistic case, SUBMIT entirely to the Creator of Adaam(as) -- it is my DUTY as a Family Member of Adaam(as)--- -- it is my DUTY as a Family Member of Adaam(as)--- to Understand that what Creator wants for the created is Followed and Understood
--by me, and all those that are in my Social Sphere.........
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I was looking at the word in the Hebrew and in the Greek. However, I couldn't really get a sense of submit in the Hebrew but the Greek does convey wonderfully the meaning of the word submit as well as it is used to show what true submission/obedience is. Please refer to the link below.
I thank you for the invitation and please provide the link!
Sunday, December 16th 2012 at 10:01PM
Jen Fad
THIS WHAT I DONT GET ROBERT then im going to leave it alone ,,,,,,IF the blogking is half of what you say he is ...why is he such a important factor in your being, why is the blogking causing you to think of him in the morning when you wake up and at night when you go to sleep ,why because i slap you in your face with the truth I tell you things other wont im in your psyche and you cant shake loose ! lmbao !!
Sunday, December 16th 2012 at 11:35PM
DAVID JOHNSON
Good morning all,
Jen long time no see; see you're still forcing folks to think. Such a joy!
Ms. Irma, unemployed divorce lawyers is a good thing.
According to the Strong and Vine's Submit has three Hebrew/Aramaic (Old Testament) and one Greek (New Testament) meanings.
In Genesis the word is "ahna" which means to belittle or afflict. Throughout the remainder of the Old Testament the word used is "kachash" means to be untrue in word or deed - a liar or deceiver. Exception: Ps 68.30. The word used therein is "raphac", which means to prostrate or humble oneself.
In the New Testament submit, submitted and submitting are all the same word - "hupotasso" - meaning " a voluntary attitude of giving in, cooperating, assuming responsibility, carrying the burden. Exception: Heb 13:17 - "hupeiko" meaning yo surrender or yield.
Peace, love and blessings
Monday, December 17th 2012 at 11:11AM
Michelle Diane
Jen sending you a reminder that we must keep fighting the good fight of faith!...and to love anyone who may despitefully use us. Sometimes we know our enemy, however also our Lord Jesus has taught us to love our enemy as well. Love you Sis.
Monday, December 17th 2012 at 11:45AM
MIISRAEL Bride
@ Diane
I was wondering why the Hebrew had such a different meaning than the Greek. I thought perhaps it was because the people back then were under the Law rather than Grace.
@ Miisrael,
I hear you love and that's why I am happy you demonstrate charity with the grace God has so beautifully equipped you with. My demonstration is a work in progress. Pray for me.
always you DELIVER a Fantastic African American SUBJECT
BUT------to the blogKing ----- how ignorantlyPOMPASS
i assure the biaKing that NO African American at BIA thinks hisWriting-- as anything other than VILE
a cartoon of the ghetto ---antiFamily---- a 'blackSTAIN' that cannot wear pants correctly and refers to someONES daughter as ' babyMOMA '-----how shameless a THINKER
BIA is asked to SMASH that oldeSTEREOTYPICAL prisonFodder, lawlessTRASH........
and if i may jenFad ---
Sûrat AlMu’minûn (The Believers) XXIII In the Name of Allâah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
1. Successful indeed are AlMu’minûn.
2. Those who offer their Salât (prayers) with all solemnity and full submissiveness.
3. Those who turn away from AlLaghw (dirty, false, evil talk, falsehood, fraud and all that Allâah has forbidden).
4. Those who pay AzZakât.
5. Those who guard their chastity (private parts, from illegal s*xual thoughts and acts)
6. Except from their wives that their right hands possess, - for then, they are free from blame;
7. But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors;
8. Those who are faithfully true to their Amanât (all the duties which Allâah has ordained, honesty, moral responsibility and trusts) and to their covenants;
9. And those who strictly guard their Salawât (prayers) at their fixed stated hours.
@JEN THERE IS ALSO A COMMAND MENT ABOUT NOT LYING...AND TO SAY I WORSHIP A BUDDHIST GOD IS A LIE OR JUST A MIND SO SMALL IT JUST REFUSES TO ALLOW ANY INFORMATION IN THAT SAYS, "I" ALWAYS MAKE IT A POINT TO SAY I AM A NDBUDDIST WHICH HAS NOT GOD OR BUDDAH TO WORSHIP...BUT AGAIN IT IS NO T "I" WHO MUST GO OUT OT MY WAY TO BREAK MY GOD'S COMMANDMENTS TO MAKE A POINT NOW IS IT? (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
..."I" DO BELIEVE IT IS NOT ME BUT THE SECOND OF THE 10 COMMANDMENTS THAT I AM REFERING TO AND BELIEVE HAS TO DO WITH THE THEME OF THIS BLOG ABOUT NOT TEKING GOD'S NAME IN VAIN...BUT THIS IS ALSO RELATED TO 'DEBATE' ALSO THAT COULD BE MISTAKEN FOR A COMPLIMINT OR A COMPLAINT ANDNOT A COMMANDMENT. LOL!!! (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@Lena, yes "I" said the debate is the sivler lining and for an example,
A 'DEBATE' WOULD ALLOW ME TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH TO SAY IT WAS NOT I WHO USED THE BIBLE AS A POPE TO PROVE MY ANSASTERS WERE NOT HUMAN BEINGS BUT PROPERTY NOR WAS I THE ONE TO USE THE BIBLE TO CAUSE A CIVIL WAR IN AMERICA THAT SAID IN TH EEYES OF A GOD TAHT MAD US IN HIS OWN IMAGE ACTUALLY MEANT AFRICANS AS MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN RACE SO LETS US GO OUT AND HAVE A WAR TO KILL EACH OTHER AND WHO EVER KILLS THE MOST IS PROOF THAT CHATEL SLAVERY IS WRONG IN THE YES OF A CHRISTIAN GOD!
YES AND EVEN HAS ME ACCEPTING THE RIGHTS OF ALL WHO SHOOSE TO SAY/ BLEIEVE THAT I DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD OR JESUS OR EVEN FREEDOM OF RELIGION WHICH IS WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO WHEN ONE IS DENIED THE RIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT THINGS WE CALL PROVEN FACTS AND IS ACTUALLY THE HISTORICAL FACTS OF AMERICAN HISTORY. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Lena, your "debate" rational comment is the silver lining. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
"i" DO LOVETHE WAY THE MUSLIMS LIVETHEIR RELIGION WITHOUT HESITATION, FEAR NOT SHAME. AND IT IS THE FASTINS GROWING RELIGION IN AMERICA AT THIS TIME.I AM GLAD TO SEE ANY THING THAT IS POSITIVE AS IT IS SO RARE IN OUR NATION.
THEY JUST HAD A WONDERFUL PARADE AND FESTIVITIES AT OUR FAIR GROUNDS NOT TOOLONG AGO...I CONFESS I GO TO EAT AND TO ENJOY THE COLORS OF THE CLOTHES THEY HAVE FOR SALE. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@MICHELLE, FOR ME WOMEN DYING LIKE FLIES FROM DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS UNACCPETABLE TO ME...AND SPEAKING NOT FOMR ME ON A PERSONAL LEVEL BUT IT WAS THE DIVORCE LAWYERS WHO TOOK THE LEAD THAT CAUSED LAWS IN AMERICA ONLY IN THE 70S MAKING IT ILLEGAL FOR A HUSBAND TO RAPE HIS WIFE. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
i WILL SAY THIS AND ALSO LEAVE IT ALONE...
IF WOMEN IN AMERICA WERE 'SUBMISSIVE' IT WOULD PUT DIVORCE ATTORNEYS OUT OF BUSINESS...IT HAS ALMOST PUT THE POPE OUT OF BUSINESS IN AMERICA AS IT IS (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...OH AND WITH THIS REPLY I LEAVE TIS BLOG FOR GOOD...YOU SEE ME, I ALSO AGREE THAT SALAVERY SHOULD BE 'ILLEGAL' (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
OH AND THE OLD TESTEMENT WOULD NOT WORK TODAY IN AMERICA MAINLY BECAUSE OF OUR LAWS TAHTSAYS ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN IN A MARRIAGE...AND WE WOMEN HAVE THE RIGHT TO NOT JUST BE SEEN BUT TO BE HEARD JUST LIKE THE MEN. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
